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« on: October 18, 2010, 08:39:28 AM »

Deer hunters love to talk about the rut more than any other subject under the whitetail hunting umbrella. From the beginning of bow season (and even before), discussions of rattling, grunting, chasing and scrapes are the topics of choice over morning coffee. By the time mid to late October rolls around, when the leaves are changing and the weather begins to cool, it might be harder to judge who's more in heat: the hunters or the does.

But the fact is, the rut is not the only time to bag a buck. In fact, it may not even be the best time. Why? Because during the peak rut, you can throw all deer predictability out the window. Testosterone-frenzy dominates. All that scouting you've done for months goes by the wayside. While this certainly means bucks make more mistakes, for all of you relentless scouters out there, it can mean days of frustration and confusion.

However, during the pre-rut, you get the best of both worlds. Bucks are still fairly predictable (they still, for the most part, maintain feeding times, travel routes, bedding areas, etc.) but they do begin to move more often and  roam farther, and  their ever-growing curiosity for hot does and heated emotions toward  imposing bucks makes grunting, rattling, planting scents, etc.  all that more effective.

Let's take a look at a few strategies for hunting the pre-rut in Arkansas

Hunting rub lines and scrapes: During the pre-rut, bucks will begin to make numerous fresh scrapes and rubs. Setting up on these areas should be your number one pre-rut hunting strategy. Because early rutting bucks are waiting for the first does to come into estrous, at no time during the season will bucks hit scrapes more than they will during just before the peak. Obviously, once more and more does come into heat, bucks have less incentive to check scrapes hunting scrapes because a hot slick-head is waiting around almost every corner.

Grunting and Rattling: There is no better time to rattle and grunt than during the pre-rut. As the peak approaches, bucks will begin to assert their dominance on younger bucks in order to set the breeding order. Early in the pre-rut, rattling should be gentle. Rub on branches and trees, and lightly spar two sets of antlers together. However, when rattling late in the pre-rut, be as aggressive and make as much noise as you possibly can. Bucks are really beginning to stalk hot does, and they will be ready for a fight with any buck imposing on their territory. Don't forget to inter-mingle aggressive grunts as you rattle as well. It's pretty much impossible to make too much noise in this instance. You can try both short and long rattles, but just rattle like you mean it! Just remember, sometimes bucks are slow to respond. I've had them come in up to 45 minutes after the rattle, but usually waiting at least 30 is a good practice.

During the peak, you can grunt and rattle all you want, but bucks already have what their after (estrous does), so don'd expect the same kind of response and success you'll experience during the pre-rut.

Using Scents - One of the best scents to use during the EARLY pre-rut is buck urine, not doe estrous urine. Whitetails are beginning to become aggressive toward other male whitetails during the pre-rut, so this scent is more enticing to the buck you're after because he'll think another buck has invaded his territory. LATER in the pre-rut, as does start to come into heat, doe estrous urine can be used to lure in big bucks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 08:29:35 PM »

I have found all of these to be true. I never have as good of luck grunting or rattling during the rut. But right on the cusp of when bucks start to get hot, you can really grunt them in. Rattling is the same way. Bucks seem to get dominate first, then get girl crazy second, so rattling right before they get to chasing hard seems to draw them in. If you wait until the rut they seem to ignore you and just go after the does.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2010, 09:17:29 AM »

This is all really good information, but what most hunter mess up on is timing.  I find more and more that people think it's pre-rut, when it's pre pre-rut, or that it is the rut when it is pre-rut and so on, or even that it is the rut when it is post rut.  This may sound crazy, but I've found to be true in Arkansas that the best time to hunt is the bow hunting time between muzzleoad season and gun season.  Few hunters make it to the woods to hunt these two weekends, but it is the absolute best time for calling deer and hunting sign. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 09:24:27 AM »

I could not agree more with your point about hunters not knowing when the rut is going on. I mean just read our rut reports, and you get everything from "they're chasing hard" to "still a few weeks away" no matter what month of the season it is.

The biggest reason for this is the fact that the rut is not just a one week deal like a lot of people think. It has distinct phases spread over SEVERAL weeks, and even bucks in the same area will hit these phases at different times.

Therefore, you have several different hunters making several different observations on several different bucks that are in several different phases of the rut. And all that equals a hell of a lot of confusion as to the question and answer of "Are the deer rutting yet?"
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2010, 09:29:38 AM »

I agree.  After my last 4 days of hunting, ten years ago, I would say they deer are hard at it...  I mean I saw two buck fights, does being chased and bucks making scrapes... Only one problem... The big boys are still eating acorns at night, resting during the days, getting ready for when it is time.  The old wise ones know it just isn't time yet, but the young bucks are anxious.  Right now you will see a lot of excitement out there, but it just depends what you are looking for.  I limit myself to one buck a year (regardless of bag limits) and he must be at least 4 years of age at be outside his ears.  It has taken a lot of time for the lease hunters to catch on, but they are much happier with waiting and being patient.  You get to see bigger, more quality bucks each time out.  If I want meet, there are plenty of does to kill every time I go out.  I just leave the young bucks alone and that's what you will see right now.  But, we aren't far off. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 07:27:22 AM »

Guys just to let you know.... my brother has hunted all week and up until 2 days ago has seen only does and lots of them. He said that every doe he has seen for the past 2 days was running with a small buck chasing them. This is in southwest, Arkansas, Howard County. Looks like there is a little rut activity.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 08:36:39 AM »

Just about right for down there, though maybe just a tad early this year even for Southern Arkansas
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 08:58:41 AM »

That's what I thought too, might be why it was all little bucks, spikes, forked horns, but I am definitely going to put out some scents and give it a shot this weekend.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 10:03:35 AM »

I believe we are still 14 days minimum away from decent big-buck activity.  I hunt North Central Arkansas.  That doesn't mean you won't see a nice buck out until then.  I think you will see them from now until the 1st of November just browsing, making scrapes, fattening up, etc. But I don't think the does will come in heat for another 14 days minimum. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2010, 10:04:45 AM »

I agree with you for North Central Arkansas. I've hunted up there all my life and seems like the best week is always around the first week of gun season, give or take.
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